PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 6 August 2018

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG and WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) August 2018 PWG F2F Plenary slide review (All)
  (3) Future F2F schedule
  (4) PWG Operations - Status (Smith / Jessica / Mike)
  (5) PWG and AMSC/ISO - Status (Paul)
  (6) PWG and 3MF - Status (Smith)
  (7) PWG / Mopria Liaison - Status (Smith)
  (8) IPP Everywhere name listing on Linux OpenPrinting website (Smith / Ira)
  (9) PWG Officer Job Descriptions - Status (All)
  (10) FTP site and write access / authentication update
  (11) Next SC meetings
  (12) Action Items Review (All)

(1) Administrivia
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20180716.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC (16 July 2018) meeting
  - Approved as posted

(2) August 2018 PWG F2F Plenary slide review (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/august-2018-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Adjusted to have shorter lunch break on 8/15 to allow 1 hour for Reprint Password 
    (since we all like talking about it so much - smile)
    - Everybody on call was fine with this

  - Can we do the plenary in 1 hour?
    - Yes, if we keep the more detailed liaison discussions for 3D to the later IPP WG
      session, we should be able to do this

  - Ira was working on slides that do a delta between TLS 1.2 and TLS 1.3
    - Not enough time allocated on the August PWG F2F agenda for that to be added to 
      Mike's TLS 1.3 and IPP
      - Leave the scope of the current topic in place
    - Ira to create TLS/1.2 and TLS/1.3 delta draft slides for CCUF in October 2018
      - Review draft slides in an IPP WG and/or IDS WG meeting

  - Membership slide 
    - make 1 less row and bump out columns, etc.

  - Gantt chart on slide 17
    - Add IDS Workgroup section and "HCD PP Errata Updates" as a line item
    - Smith to review agenda for last week's moved IPP WG for target dates and items

ACTION: 08/06/18 - Smith to twiddle web page (slides are right, web is currently wrong) to make 8/15 lunch be 11:00 - 11:30am
- CLOSED
ACTION: 08/06/18 - Ira to create TLS/1.2 and TLS/1.3 delta draft slides before IPP WG on 09/13/18 call, for presentation at October 2018 HCD TC and November 2018 PWG F2F
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/06/18 - Paul to create a 3D liaison overview slide for August PWG Plenary with some bullet points and answer to "Why is the PWG involved with this?" and a forward reference to the 08/16/18 IPP 3D session for more details
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/06/18 - Smith to post second draft live-edited Plenary slides to FTP site
- CLOSED
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-plenary-august-2018-d2.pptx

(3) Future F2F schedule
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- Discussion
  - Virtualize November 2018?
    - Unanimous consensus is YES

  - May 2019 
    - Would the Linux OP folks be OK with meeting in Lexington KY?
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ACTION: 08/06/18 - Ira to check with Linux OP folks on 2019 Joint PWG/OP held in Lexington, KY at OP monthly call on 08/14/18
- IN PROGRESS - Ira sent email to OP folks on 08/09/18

(4) PWG Operations - Status (Smith / Jessica / Mike)

- Discussion
  - No progress on Jessica's side in hiring a replacement for Mike for Sys Admin tasks

(5) PWG and AMSC/ISO - Status (Paul)
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- Discussion 
  - Paul to send Jessica the email as per the earlier action item below
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ACTION: 08/06/18 - Paul to email Jessica to provide ASTM with permission for appropriate PWG attribution in the ISO list of 3D related terms, but not the whole copyright notice, just a one-liner
- OPEN - refreshed from 06/18/18
(6) PWG and 3MF - Status (Smith)
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- Discussion
  - Smith reached out through Kris and also others 
    - no response yet as of 2018-07-26
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ACTION: 08/06/18 - Smith to contact Alexander Auster (Autodesk) about PWG and 3MF liaison status per IPP WG minutes of 04/26/18
- OPEN
(7) PWG / Mopria Liaison - Status (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/PWG-2018-IPP-Overview-20180726.pdf
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- Discussion
  - Smith presented to Mopria via dial in at Mopria F2F on 2018-07-26 
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(8) IPP Everywhere name listing on Linux OpenPrinting website (Smith / Ira)

- Discussion
  - Still open / pending
    - Placing PWG IPP logo in the existing website would be awkward
    - OpenPrintingwebsite needs refresh and cleanup

(9) PWG Officer Job Descriptions - Status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-staff-and-their-responsibilities-2018-07-16.docx
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- Discussion
  - Smith posted an updated draft
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ACTION: 08/06/18 - Smith to read Bill's response email on PWG Officer Job Descriptions and post another draft
- OPEN

(10) FTP site and write access / authentication update

- Discussion
  - Decided needs more consideration
    - no progress since last SC meeting
  
  - Webform could be useful for this but still needs updates

  - Table discussion for now until webform updates and IEEE-ISTO Sys Admin hired

(11) Next SC meetings
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc


- SC - Monday 27 August 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - regular topics

- SC - Monday 24 September 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern (tentative)
  - regular topics

(12) Action Items Review (All)
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- Discussion
  - Deferred
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Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Ira to update "pwg-namespace-policy-20060112.txt" - add "white" prefix and update project and document lifecycles
- IN PROGRESS - pwg-namespace-policy-20160820.txt is first draft
ACTION: Ira and Alan work w/ Anne Price to develop a joint TCG/PWG demo of HCD-TNC profile in a Printer with a Router or OS evaluating the Printer Health
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for the August 2016 F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document - Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith to write an outline of the structure of Process 4.0 for SC review
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith to request SC review of pwg-namespace-policy-20160820.txt before an SC meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/16/18 - Smith to reach out to the 3MF officers to work on co-branding and PWG collaboration
- IN PROGRESS - Smith sent another query to Adrian in July 2018
- Smith reached out to 3MF Consortium officers about logo usage, not complete yet - Kurt Hunter has retired from Microsoft in July 2018 - Kris Iverson (Microsoft) offered to help get this done in July 2018
ACTION: Smith to follow up with Anne Price about press releases for IPP/1.1 (RFC 8010 / 8011), IPP 3D Print, IPP Finishings/2.1, and IPP Everywhere with certified products
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith / Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: Paul to draft summary of PWG 3D efforts for review by SC and Anne Price
- OPEN
ACTION: Jessica / Paul to check with Pat (ASTM) on resolution to how they can take PWG terms but still provide attribution
- OPEN
ACTION: Paul to send email to Pat (ASTM) and copy Jessica on a proposal for a path forward that has been discussed (targeted license agreement, etc.)
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/18/18 - Smith to query Jessica periodically about PWG Operations transfer management to ISTO
- IN PROGRESS
- Jessica is working on this in July 2018
ACTION: 06/18/18 - Smith to sync with Jeremy Reitz before August PWG F2F 2018 meeting on Mopria / PWG topics
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/18/18 - Smith / Ira to update PWG 2017 slides for Mopria in 2018
- IN PROGRESS
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/PWG-2018-IPP-Overview-20180709.pdf
ACTION: 07/16/18 - Smith to do first draft of August 2018 PWG F2F Plenary slides for review at next SC meeting on 07/30/18
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/16/18 - Smith to request officers to submit liaison and WG summary slide drafts for August 2018 PWG F2F ready to review by 07/30/18
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/16/18 - Smith to edit the IPP 3D State of the Union draft slides so that Paul can hack on them some more and then present that at 3DHEALS on 07/26/18
- CLOSED
ACTION: 07/16/18 - SC to finalize "IPP 2018 State of the Union" slide deck before 07/26/18
- CLOSED
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/PWG-2018-IPP-Overview-20180726.pdf
ACTION: 07/16/18 - Smith / Ira to follow up with Aveek / Till on getting IPP Everywhere logo listed on Linux OpenPrinting website
- IN PROGRESS - Ira brought this up again on OP monthly call and email on 07/17/18
ACTION: 07/16/18 - SC to review PWG Officer Job Descriptions and provide feedback
- IN PROGRESS - Smith sent a new draft
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-staff-and-their-responsibilities-2018-07-16.docx