PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 29 July 2019

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Xerox, PWG Vice Chair, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker

- Revised Agenda:
  (1) Administrivia
  (2) PWG F2F Plenary slides - Review (Smith)
  (3) PWG Last Calls - Status (Smith/Ira)
  (4) Future of PWG / PR efforts - Status (Smith/Ira)
  (5) Open Printing GSoC 2019 / new website - Status (Ira)
  (6) ISO JTC1 SC28 liaison - Status (Alan)
  (7) AMSC/ISO liaisons - Status (Paul)
  (8) Other liaisons (3MF, Mopria, etc.) - Status (Smith)
  (9) PWG Website - Status (Smith)
  (10) PWG document numbers for Informational - pwg-namespace-policy (Ira)
  (11) Next SC meetings
  (12) Action Items Review (All)

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20190715.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (15 July 2019)
  - Approved as posted

(2) PWG F2F Plenary slides - Review (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/pwg-plenary-august-2019-d1.pptx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/pwg-plenary-august-2019-d1.pdf

- Discussion
  - Good feedback from Bill on 28 July 2019
    - Add additional content to a "PWG Steering Committee Updates" section
    - Quality improvement slide 
      - Maybe pursue implementation of integration testing in build scripts for GSoC 2020?

  - Relabel JPS3 to be JPS3 v2.0 (not v1.1) - due to new attributes and conformance

  - Make Plenary 9:00-10:15am, IPP WG Status 10:15-10:30am
    - To allow for PWG SC updates and discussion

  - Replace IPP Job Accounting session with an IPP System Service session

  - Move IPP Job Accounting to the end of the IPP EPX session
    - Job Accounting could be a multi-year effort!

  - Add GSoC 2019 status to IPP WG Status deck (for Plenary and IPP sessions)

  - Add IPP errata review session?

  - 3D Printing Metadata BoF can absorb the 3D PDF session 
    - So after lunch on Friday we can do some more IPP sessions perhaps

  - Changes for Friday
    - 9:00-10:00 IPP Errata update
    - 10:00-11:00 3D Printing Liaison Status
    - 11:00-11:30 Lunch
    - 11:30-1:00 3D Printing Metadata BoF / 3D PDF
    - 1:00-1:15 IPP WG Next Steps

(3) PWG Last Calls - Status (Smith/Ira)

- Discussion
  - IPP Authentication Methods v1.0
    - PWG Formal Vote ends 16 August 2019

  - IPP Job Extensions v2.0
    - PWG Formal Vote ends 16 August 2019

  - IDS WG Charter
    - IDS WG Last Call ended with no objections
    - PWG Call for Objections started 27 July 2019 ends Monday 26 August 2019

ACTION: 07/29/19 - Smith to pound the pavement to get votes for IPP Authentication Methods and IPP Job Extensions
- OPEN

(4) Future of PWG / PR efforts - Status (Smith/Ira)

- Discussion
  - IPP Announcements
    - IPP Authentication Methods v1.0
    - IPP Job Extensions v2.0

  - 3D Announcements
    - 3D PDF v1.1 / PWG Safe G-Code Subset v1.0
      - Delay this one to fold it in with an INCITS announcement

ACTION: 07/29/19 - Smith to get PWG PR efforts restarted with Anne Price!
- OPEN

(5) Open Printing GSoC 2019 / new website - Status (Ira)

- Discussion
  - GSoC 2019 update
    - Things are going well for GSoC 2019 
    - All students passed Phase 1 and Phase 2 evaluations
    - Work ongoing on updates to test suites for 5100.3, 5100.5, 5100.7 and System Service

  - GSoC 2019 timeline
    - DONE - 6-27 May - Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed 
      to begin coding

    - DONE - 27 May - Coding officially begins!

    - DONE - 24-28 June - Mentors and students do Phase 1 evaluations
 
    - DONE - 22-26 July - Mentors and students do Phase 2 evaluations

    - 19-26 August - Students submit final work product and their final mentor evaluation

    - 26 August to 2 September - Mentors submit final student evaluations

  - OP new website development postponed until the fall (after GSoC 2019 completes)

  - Linux Plumbers Conference on 9-11 September 2019 at Corinthia Hotel in Lisbon, Portugal
    - https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/
    - https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/page/25-faqs

    - OP Microconference on 10 September 2019 at 10am-1:30pm WEST / 5am-8:30am US EDT
      - https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/page/34-accepted-microconferences
      - Aveek will try to arrange for BlueJeans web conference for remote participation

    - OP Participation
      - Till to attend in person all 3 days
      - Aveek is applying to Linux Foundation for travel funding

(6) ISO JTC1 SC28 liaison - Status (Alan)
https://www.iso.org/committee/45314.html (ISO JTC1 SC28 - Office Equipment)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Criteria
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- Discussion
  - No updates
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(7) AMSC/ISO liaisons - Status (Paul)
https://www.iso.org/committee/45020.html (ISO/IEC JTC1 - Information Technology)
http://www.incits.org/
http://3dpdfconsortium.org/ (3D PDF Consortium)
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- Discussion
  - INCITS Liaison
    - Jessica / ISTO is pursuing this
    - Paul got Jessica the INCITS contact
    - Paul has been attending the technical committee meetings

  - 3D PDF Consortium
    - Y.1447 semantics are not fully aligned with PWG semantics
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ACTION: 07/29/19 - Smith to check what is going on with PWG/INCITS liaison w/ Jessica and get things moving
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/29/19 - Paul to email PWG SC about establishing a liaison between PWG and 3D PDF Consortium - purpose is resolving the delta / filling in the gaps between PWG semantics and ASME Y.1447 semantics so that everything works well in 3D PDF
- OPEN

(8) Other liaisons (3MF, Mopria, etc.) - Status (Smith)

- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - Jeremy Reitz (Xerox) might have updates from Mopria meeting last week

  - Smith is working on PWG 2019 updates deck - close but not ready yet
    - Add a link to IPP JDF Mapping for the "process vs. intent" statement in the deck

(9) PWG Website - Status (Smith)
https://www.icdsoft.com/

- Discussion
  - Mailing list is causing a problem with ICDSoft (they don't do GNU Mailman)

  - Is there a way for us to do the mailing list postings such that we can decouple 
    ourselves from Mailman?
    - For example, PDFs of relevant emails in PWG FTP directories

  - How many durable links are we talking about (for the IANA IPP Registry)?

ACTION: 07/29/19 - Smith to count the durable email archive links in the IANA IPP Registry
- OPEN

(10) PWG document numbers for Informational - pwg-namespace-policy (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-namespace-policy-20160820.txt
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- Discussion
  - Ira to update pwg-namespace-policy and present to SC in a future meeting
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ACTION: 07/29/19 - Ira to produce an updated draft of pwg-namespace-policy for review at a future SC meeting
- OPEN

(11) Next SC meetings
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC - Monday 12 August 2019 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - regular meeting
  - Last minute August F2F stuff

- SC - Monday 26 August 2019
  - CANCELED due to PWG Virtual F2F on 28-30 August 2019

- SC - Monday 9 September 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - regular meeting

(12) Action Items Review (All)

- Discussion
  - Deferred (but action item status updated - see below)

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith to write an outline of the structure of Process 4.0 for SC review
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith/Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/08/18 - SC to review PWG Officer Job Descriptions and provide feedback
- IN PROGRESS
- Smith sent a new draft
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-staff-and-their-responsibilities-2018-07-16.docx
- Smith to read Bill's response email on PWG Officer Job Descriptions and post another draft
- Related to "Future of PWG" topic
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what is needed in IDS WG meetings
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan has a dialogue w/ Masahiro-san of ISO JTC1 SC28
- Alan held an IDS meeting on 01/24/19
ACTION: 12/17/18 - Alan to contact Paul Jeran (HP) about a PWG liaison with the US TAG of SC 28 (administered by INCITIS) and communicate that we are intending to pursue a liaison with other ISO JTC1 SCs in a similar fashion
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/25/19 - Paul to reach out to MT Connect on behalf of PWG
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/06/19 - Smith to ask the SC to make a list of the things we are anticipating wanting to be announced as PR announcements, and get that to Anne Price so that she can develop the timeline for when they should be released
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira to start PWG Last Call for IPP System Service v1.0 once IPP WG Last Call completes
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira / Alan to add "Other interesting reflectors and groups" section to the IDS WG page on the PWG website
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Paul / Mike to maybe do some dev work on embedding 3MF job tickets in about a month or so
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to ask Anne to draft a PR for PWG Safe G-Code
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to create the PWG IPP Status 2019 deck (for Mopria and others)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to check in with Jeremy Reitz about Mopria status for 2019 and ask whether they want an PWG IPP 2019 Update for presentation at a Mopria F2F
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/01/19 - Smith to talk to Mike about updating the 3D page so that it lists the growing list of 3D related PWG documents
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to ask Jessica to see if she or her cohorts can take on straightening out the INCITS liaison issue?
- ONGOING
- Jessica will follow up w/ INCITS on PWG liaison issue
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to post draft Plenary slides before 29 July 2019 SC meeting
- CLOSED
- Smith posted draft Plenary slides on 26 July 2019