PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 16 December 2019

Attendees

Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Vice Chair)
Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Chair)
Alan Sukert (Xerox, former PWG Vice Chair, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG and WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Smith Kennedy as minute taker (Ira was traveling)

- Revised Agenda:
  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Finalize February 2020 PWG Virtual F2F Dates (All)
  (3) IDS WG Chair replacement - Status (Alan)
  (4) PWG Last Calls or Formal Votes - Status (Smith/Jeremy/Ira)
  (5) PWG PR Efforts - Status (Smith)
  (6) 3D Printing liaisons - Status (Paul)
  (7) Updates of "pwg-namespace-policy.txt" - Status (Ira)
  (8) Updates of "ipp-registry-policy.txt" - Review (Smith)
  (9) Toolset thoughts (All)
  (10) Next SC meetings (All)
  (11) Action Items - Review (All)

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20191202.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (2 December 2019)
  - Approved as posted

- Review minutes of PWG Plenary (20 November 2019)
  - Alan Sukert was missing from attendees
  - Ira edited and reposted during SC meeting
  - Approval deferred to next SC meeting

(2) Finalize February 2020 PWG Virtual F2F Dates (All)

- Discussion
  - Originally supposed to be 5-6 February but Smith had a typo and had it on 4-5 February
    - 5-6 February better for all concerned so went with that
    - Fixed in agenda drafts, meeting page, and in the first draft of the events page

ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to get events page listed on PWG meetings page
- OPEN

(3) IDS WG Chair replacement - Status (Alan)

- Discussion
  - Will engage in January 2020 and have something to report 13 January 2020 SC meeting

(4) PWG Last Calls or Formal Votes - Status (Smith/Jeremy/Ira)
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- Discussion
  - IPP System Service v1.0
    - IPP System Service PWG 5100.22-2019 is about to be published
    - Smith, Alan, and Ira have done proofreading
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ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to check with Mike on when he plans to publish the Candidate Standard final draft of IPP System Service and then announce it
- OPEN

(5) PWG PR Efforts (Smith)

- Discussion
  - GCP / IPP Everywhere announcement
    - We are holding off on this until Smith reaches out to Sean Kau at Google

    - Odd that it showed up on Google support pages but no formal announcement 
      - Was there going to be one?
      - Was there an actual press release?

    - What is the scope of this? 
      - Is it ChromeOS? Or the Chrome browser? 
      - Does "native print" mean CUPS on ChromeOS, or does it mean that the Chrome 
        browser will be

  - IPP System Service announcement
    - Delay until Q1 2020 or a bit later

  - 3D Printing announcement bundle
    - Topics
      - INCITS liaison
      - 3D PDF Liaison
      - Drupa 2020
      - NIST MACE presentation status

    - Timing
      - After NIST MACE presentation (February 2020)
      - Before Drupa (June 2020)

ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to find a good crisp explanation (hopefully from Google) about what GCP discontinuance actually means, because the articles are a bit vague and our PWG answer would need to respond to the Google statement directly
- OPEN

(6) 3D Printing liaisons - Status (Paul)

- Discussion
  - INCITS
    - INCITS meeting to review and hopefully approve PWG liaison (no-fee membership) 
      on 12/17/19

  - 3D related metadata to be done by ISO/IEC JTC1 WG12
    - PDF responsible group (ISO TC171 SC2 WG12 PDF Group "Metadata") wanted to own 
      XMP metadata (owned now by ISO TC130)
    - Work will be done outside of that in the PDF group
    - 3D PDF Consortium is the US TAG to TC171 SC2 WG12

  - DRUPA 2020
    - Needs our submission!
      - Paul working on it over the weekend

  - US NIST MACE Consortium
    - PWG WebEx with US NIST MACE Consortium
      - Pick a date in February sometime after the PWG Virtual F2F (5-6 February 2020)

    - MACE Consortium said the 3D PDF metadata updates from ISO TC171 SC2 WG12 are 
      hugely important!

    - The fill pattern performed by the print head is also hugely important! 
      - How this is handled depends on how the G-Code / slicing paths are produced

ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith and Paul to get a liaison agreement between PWG and 3D PDF Consortium
- IN PROGRESS
Paul met with Phil Spreier on 12/16/19 and will send an introductory email to Smith and Joni to get the ball rolling on this liaison
ACTION: 12/16/19 - SC to review draft DRUPA 2020 submission from Paul and get him feedback ASAP
- OPEN

(7) Updates of "pwg-namespace-policy.txt" - Status (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-namespace-policy-20160820.txt
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-namespace-policy-20160820.docx
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- Discussion
  - Deferred (Ira was traveling)
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(8) Updates of "ipp-registry-policy.txt" - Review (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ipp-registry-policy-20191121.docx
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- Discussion
  - Deferred
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ACTION: 12/16/19 - Smith to remind folks about 11/21/19 draft of IPP Registry Policy and be ready for review 13 January 2020
- OPEN

(9) Toolset thoughts (All)

- Discussion
  - Interactive review is better than offline review for drilling down to consensus 
    instead of resolving possibly competing email comments on one passage

(10) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC - Monday 30 December 2019 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - cancelled - Happy New Year!

- SC - Monday 13 January 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - planning for February 2020 PWG Virtual F2F
  - review Plenary slides for February 2020 PWG Virtual F2F

- SC - Monday 27 January 2020 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - finalize February PWG Virtual F2F plenary slides

(11) Action Items - Review (All)

- Discussion
  - Deferred (but action item status updated - see below)

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: Smith to write an outline of the structure of Process 4.0 for SC review
- OPEN
ACTION: Smith/Jessica to update "liaison agreement template" or create new "license agreement template" that would allow a partner to grant to PWG the right to use or reference content within - should this be created by the PWG or by the org that is granting the license?
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/08/18 - SC to review PWG Officer Job Descriptions and provide feedback
- IN PROGRESS
- Smith sent a new draft
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-staff-and-their-responsibilities-2018-07-16.docx
- Smith to read Bill's response email on PWG Officer Job Descriptions and post another draft
- Related to "Future of PWG" topic
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what is needed in IDS WG meetings
- IN PROGRESS
- Alan has a dialogue w/ Masahiro-san of ISO JTC1 SC28
- Alan held an IDS meeting on 01/24/19
ACTION: 12/17/18 - Alan to contact Paul Jeran (HP) about a PWG liaison with the US TAG of SC 28 (administered by INCITIS) and communicate that we are intending to pursue a liaison with other ISO JTC1 SCs in a similar fashion
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/25/19 - Paul to reach out to MT Connect on behalf of PWG
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Ira / Alan to add "Other interesting reflectors and groups" section to the IDS WG page on the PWG website
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/20/19 - Paul / Mike to maybe do some development work on embedding 3MF job tickets
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to create the PWG IPP Status 2019 deck (for Mopria and others)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/17/19 - Smith to check in with Jeremy Reitz about Mopria status for 2019 and ask whether they want an PWG IPP 2019 Update for presentation at a Mopria F2F
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/01/19 - Smith to talk to Mike about updating the 3D page so that it lists the growing list of 3D related PWG documents
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/29/19 - Ira to produce an updated draft of pwg-namespace-policy for review at a future SC meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/28/19 - Smith/Ira to start a new thread on Process 4.0 framework
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Paul to post query to ipp@pwg.org reflector on how to appropriately convey "print quality" attributes that may be relating to process, and how they should be represented via IPP (keeping in mind process vs. intent)
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Paul to ask AMSC if they will be attending DRUPA 2020 - AMSC attends to make sure that standards are not being created that are unduly focused on particular environments, locales, etc.
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/23/19 - Smith to make sure PWG PR effort doesn't lose momentum
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/18/19 - Smith to work w/ ISTO and Mike to get PWG business notes delivered to all three PWG officers
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/18/19 - Smith to recommend that Alan reach out to Cihan or Graydon to fill Chair and Vice-Chair (or Secretary) roles for IDS WG
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/20/19 - Smith / Ira to ping Anne Price to write drafts for IPP Everywhere 1.1 and Release 4 of IPP Everywhere 1.0 tools and IPP 3D Printing in December 2019 to be ready for January (avoiding CES 2020 overload)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 12/02/19 - Mike to create a Candidate Standard version of IPP System Service, post to PWG FTP site, and announce to PWG
- CLOSED