PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 19 September 2022

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) 3MF/PWG Liaison - status (Smith)
  (4) Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe - PWG overview? (Paul)
  (5) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (6) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
  (7) PWG 2022 Member Dues - status (Jeremy, Smith)
  (8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (9) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (10) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
  (11) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (12) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2022 - update (Paul)
  (13) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20220822.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (22 August 2022)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Google and Microsoft representatives to invite them 
to the IPP WG TT meeting this Thursday and CC IPP WG officers and point them to the wiki page
- CLOSED
- Still moving forward with this - progress is in the hands of the IPP WG

ACTION: 08/22/22 - Paul to reach out to Holger Gräfe with links to the Mopria liaison "2022 
PWG State of the Union" slide deck and PWG About page and find out when Holger needs the material 
and if these have some or all of what he needs
- IN PROGRESS

ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and
Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS

(3) 3MF/PWG Liaison - status (Smith)

- Discussion
  - Smith trying to find the right time - current proposal is 09/27/22 @ 11am ET
    - What about during next week's SC TT? >>> Propose that time as well >>> Doodle poll

  - Need a tight crisp presentation / list of areas we see synergy to share with 3MF Consortium 
    - What to present?

    - Tie it to deck from PDF Association and OpenPrinting growing interest in 3D printing 
      somehow?

    - Current / earlier perspective
      - 3MF is one of two formats listed in IPP 3D Printing Extensions - PWG cross branding
        interest

      - IPP used on macOS / iOS / Android / Windows 10 & 11 / Linux

      - PWG's 3D printing page articulates some of our perspectives and what IPP provides or
        can provide to 3D printing

      - PWG and 3MF Consortium had discussed embedding PWG Job Ticket into a 3MF container to 
        allow IPP / PWG semantics to be conveyed over non-IPP transports

ACTION: 09/19/22 - Paul / Mike to create short PWG deck (3-4 slides) to present to 3MF Consortim at the joint meeting in the week of 09/26/22
- OPEN

(4) Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe - PWG overview? (Paul)
https://www.gse.org/
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/PWG-2022-State-of-the-Union-20220920-d2.pptx
https://www.pwg.org/about.html
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- Discussion
  - Paul reached out to Holger, suggesting the "2022 PWG State of the Union" as a starting point 
    - Waiting for a response
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(5) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
https://pwg.org/security/
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/minutes/IDS-call-minutes-20220922.pdf

- Discussion
  - Mike was not available

  - Waiting for updates or feedback from SC members to Mike on current content!

  - Alan to add review of this page at IDS on 09/22/22
    - DONE - good discussion - see IDS minutes link above

(6) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
https://www.standardshub.io/

- Discussion
  - Ira to re-engage with Seth at Standards Hub
    - DONE - Ira wrote to Seth on 09/19/22 and arranged next joint meeting

  - Joint meeting of PWG and Standards Hub officers at 6pm Eastern on 09/23/22
    - DONE - Jeremy and Ira met w/ Seth and Joaquin

  - Next Joint of PWG and Standards Hub officers to be scheduled
    - Smith and Mike to meet w/ Seth and Joaquin in near future (during October)
    - Ira to facilitate scheduling

(7) PWG 2022 Member Dues - status (Jeremy, Smith)
https://www.printerlogic.com/

- Discussion
  - New PWG member: Printer Logic (St. George, Utah)
    - Has attended IPP WG teleconference earlier 
      - They were interested in eventing and a server-less cloud solution

  - All other PWG members are paid up!!!

  - We will be starting 2023 billing cycle soon

  - "Member Spotlight" (Paul)
    - PWG member talks about technical aspects of their products and IPP feature needs

    - Schedule at IPP meetings and/or IPP F2F sessions?

    - Pitch this as a "technical marketing" opportunity?

(8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Not clear how to slay this dragon

(9) 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - Still waiting for an article draft from Paul
    - Review at a future Tiger Team call
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ACTION: 09/19/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article draft before (10/24/22) for Tiger Team
- OPEN

(10) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-process-4-20220829.pdf

- Discussion
  - Smith posted a new draft of PWG Process 4.0 on 08/29/22
    - After our live-edits at Tiger Team call

  - Changes
    - Rewrote and approved section 3
    - Merged sections 4 and 5
    - Changed many instances of "process" to instead use "procedure"
    - Added a short description of how PWG SC approves decisions to what is now section 6.2

  - Next Steps
    - More SC review of Process 4.0 at future Tiger Team calls
    - More SC review of open Policy documents at future Tiger Team calls

(11) OpenPrinting - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20220809.htm
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20220906.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2022/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-September-2022/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.16
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.2.2
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.1.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes links from 08/09/22 and 09/06/22 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 08/19/22 and 09/22/22 (Till)

  - See GSoC 2022 timeline link above
    - Coding officially began on 06/13/22 and ended on 09/12/22 (now extended to 10/10/22)

    - Third month of the coding period and our contributors are continuing their great work! 

    - Applying a new feature of the GSoC! 
      - Coding period extended for all 7 contributors by four weeks to 10/10/22
      - To compensate for contributors exams and restarted classes during GSoC 2022 coding

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.2 release notes link from 05/26/22 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.16 release notes link from 08/24/22 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.2.2 release notes link from 09/21/22 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/02/21 (Mike)

  - See LPrint v1.1.0 release notes link from 12/23/21 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 07/05/22, 08/09/22, 09/06/22, and upcoming 10/18/22

(12) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)
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- Discussion
  - No update
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(13) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 26 September 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED due to schedule conflicts

- SC - Monday 3 October 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Regular call
  - Jeremy will be out - Smith to host
  - Paul and Alan to review drafts for slides? Is this too late?

- SC Tiger Team - 10 October 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED due to Columbus Day

- SC - Monday 17 October 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Regular call
  - See action item for Paul to have that 3D /IPP article written by next week's TT

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 24 October 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - 3D / IPP article draft review

- SC - Monday 31 October 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Draft PWG Plenary slide review for November PWG F2F?
  - Ira out of town all day caring for his wife who has surgery

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 7 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Final PWG Plenary slide review for November PWG F2F
  - Ira asleep due to IETF 115 Hybrid (London, UK) at 3am-12pm Eastern!

- SC - Monday 14 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED due to November PWG F2F

- PWG Plenary - Tuesday 15 November 2022 7am Pacific / 10am Eastern
  - SC Update, Members, WG Status

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact Mike Rhines about renewing PWG / Mopria liaison agreement
- CLOSED
- New PWG / Mopria liaison completed on 04/26/22
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact 3MF Consortium about renewing PWG / 3MF Consortium liaison agreement
- IN PROGRESS
- PWG officers to meet w/ 3MF Consortium in week of 09/26/22
ACTION: 04/04/22 - Smith / Jeremy to reach out to the PWG member contacts and check on their dues status and confirm they are still the right contacts to be listed in the PWG scorecard
- CLOSED
- May need to re-open for 2023 billing cycle in fall of 2022
ACTION: 07/25/22 - Paul / Alan to discuss what they are going to present on 3D later in the fall of 2022
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/25/22 - Smith to update Process 4.0 draft to add back in approval processes for PWG Process and PWG Policy document types
- CLOSED
- Added to Process 4.0 draft of 08/23/22
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Google and Microsoft representatives to invite them to the IPP WG TT meeting this Thursday and CC IPP WG officers and point them to the wiki page
- CLOSED
- Still moving forward with this - progress is in the hands of the IPP WG
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Paul to reach out to Holger Gräfe with links to the Mopria liaison "2022 PWG State of the Union" slide deck and PWG About page and find out when Holger needs the material and if these have some or all of what he needs
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS