PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 17 April 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Jeremy Leber as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) May F2F Planning (All)
  (4) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (5) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
  (6) PWG 2023 Member Dues - status (Smith)
  (7) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (8) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (9) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (10) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (11) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - review (All)
  (12) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20230320.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (20 March 2023)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 03/20/23 - Ira to solicit feedback from Mike, Till, Aveek, and Danny on OP topics for 
May 2023 Joint PWG/OP F2F
- CLOSED

ACTION: 03/20/23 - Jeremy to create a 2nd Survey for potential May 2023 F2F location in 
Lexington, KY and a possible joint connection from Sunnyvale
- CLOSED

ACTION: 03/20/23 - Jeremy and Alan to poke the email thread on PWG Website update for Security
and Privacy with a stick to make sure that it hasn't gone dormant (refreshed from 10/31/22)
- OPEN

(3) May F2F Planning (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/may-2023-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Agenda page has been created based on draft agenda
    - Lots of links to update but good enough for now
   
    - Webex meeting link is valid

  - Plenary slide review in 2 weeks on 05/01/23

ACTION: 04/17/23 - Smith to resend speaker invitation message for May F2F 2023 to Google
- OPEN

(4) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
https://pwg.org/security/

- Discussion
  - Mike still not here...

  - See action item about updating the page to better reflect IDS topics and terminology 
    - Maybe that needs to be handled first before we invite him back?

  - Paul will be reaching out to a contact to get information about cost of handling a 
    printing / print system security problem, and update to more accurately reflect both 2D 
    and 3D printing

(5) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
https://www.standardshub.io/

- Discussion
  - No updates

  - Ira to re-engage with Seth and Joaquin

  - Ira to re-engage with Jeremy and Smith and Mike on possible meeting times
    - Need to suggest late afternoon possible times on Thursday or Friday

(6) PWG 2023 Member Dues - status (Jeremy, Smith)

- Discussion
  - No recent updates 
    - ISTO scorecard updates haven't been sent out in a while

  - ISTO and Apple still working through getting Apple's dues paid 
    - Apple asked ISTO to update their "supplier information" (which hadn't changed...)

(7) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Ira still not receiving lots of email

  - Are others not receiving Ira's messages?
    - ipp@pwg.org is not listing / receiving / archiving any of Ira's recent messages (since 
      January)

  - Bill and Alan are also not receiving any ipp@pwg.org messages
    - Alan, Bill and Ira were all NOT subscribed! :) 

    - Smith subscribed them, let's see if that fixes it...

(8) 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://amcoe.org/event/icam2023/

- Discussion
  - ICAM 2023 (Washington, DC) - 30 October to 3 November 2023

  - Paul and Alan received an email from ICAM 2023 asking to do something this year, and they 
    submitted a proposal for a possible presentation - will hear back around 05/10/23
    - Some things in CC2022 that might be interesting / applicable to the whole digital thread
      (including 3D printing) that could be useful extensions to the current HCD cPP

    - Interest in this area exists but a roadmap forward seems to be floundering. PWG proposal 
      would provide a way forward

(9) OpenPrinting - update (Ira) https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20230404.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-April-2023/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b1
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.3.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.1.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes links from 04/04/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news links from 04/16/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2023 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - Aveek has gotten enough candidates they could double-staff all projects - good job Aveek!

    - See timeline link above!

    - DONE - 23 January 2023 - Mentoring organizations start submitting applications to Google

    - DONE - 7 February 2023 - Mentoring organization application deadline

    - DONE - 22 February 2023 - List of accepted mentoring orgs published - LF accepted!

    - DONE - 22 February to 19 March 2023 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application
      ideas with mentoring organizations

    - DONE - 20 March 2023 - GSoC contributor application period begins

    - DONE 4 April 2023 - GSoC contributor application period ends

    - 27 April 2023 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins

    - 4 May 2023 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.2 release notes link from 05/26/22 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta1 release notes link from 02/09/23 (Mike)

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)
    - Release candidate of CUPS Filters v2.0 is available from 04/12/23 (Till)!

  - See PAPPL v1.3.1 release notes link from 12/30/22 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/02/21 (Mike)

  - See LPrint v1.1.0 release notes link from 12/23/21 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls on 03/07/23, 04/04/23, and upcoming 05/09/23

(10) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://opcfoundation.org/

- Discussion
  - VDMA / OPCUA sent Paul a question
    - OPCUA spec is a big monolithic thing

    - Trying to do job management and file transfer but not efficient (based on FTP?)

    - Some stakeholders want E2E encryption which is handled at a higher level than the 
      transport

    - Paul to share question with Mike and formulate a response. Best to focus on stakeholder 
      needs and requirements than responding to OPCUA stuff?

(11) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - review (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-process-4-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-comm-policy-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-document-management-policy-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-meetings-policy-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-membership-policy-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-roles-and-responsibilities-policy-20230410.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-workgroup-decisions-policy-20230410.pdf
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- Discussion
  - Six PWG Policy documents in SC Last Call ending on 04/25/23

  - Process 4.0 draft waiting for all PWG Policy documents referenced are approved before 
    moving forward with its SC Last Call and starting PWG Formal Approval for Process 4.0
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(12) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 24 April 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - TBD

- SC - Monday 1 May 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Plenary slide review

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 8 May 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Final Plenary slides for Joint PWG/OP Summit May F2F 

- SC - Monday 15 May 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED due to Joint PWG/OP Summit on 16-18 May 2023

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 22 May 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - PWG Process 4.0

- SC - Monday 1 May 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - F2F post-mortem

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact 3MF Consortium about renewing PWG / 3MF Consortium liaison agreement
- IN PROGRESS
- PWG officers to meet w/ 3MF Consortium in week of 09/26/22
ACTION: 07/25/22 - Paul / Alan to discuss what they are going to present on 3D later in the fall of 2022
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to contact Luis at 3MF (and CC Mike and Jeremy) with a description of the AMSC v3.0 opportunity and request immediate collaboration to work together on this in AMSC, but not overtly mention the liaison in the note
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to check in with Holger (Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe) and see what is needed next
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Smith / Jeremy to update the PWG Members page with PrinterLogic's URL and logo image (and the November 2022 Plenary slide deck too...)
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 03/06/23 - Smith to send LFOP and SC a draft agenda using last year's agenda
- CLOSED
ACTION: 03/06/23 - Jeremy / Ira / Mike / Smith to find a time to have a next discussion with Standards Hub folks (refreshed from 10/17/22)
- OPEN
ACTION: 03/20/23 - Ira to solicit feedback from Mike, Till, Aveek, and Danny on OP topics for May 2023 Joint PWG/OP F2F
- CLOSED
ACTION: 03/20/23 - Jeremy to create a 2nd Survey for potential May 2023 F2F location in Lexington, KY and a possible joint connection from Sunnyvale
- CLOSED
ACTION: 03/20/23 - Jeremy and Alan to poke the email thread on PWG Website update for Security and Privacy with a stick to make sure that it hasn't gone dormant (refreshed from 10/31/22)
- OPEN