PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 12 June 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Process 4.0 Last Call - status (All)
  (4) PWG August F2F - planning (All)
  (5) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (6) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (7) PWG 2023 Member Dues - status (Jeremy)
  (8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (9) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (12) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20230522.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (22 May 2023)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also
investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain 
into the page content
- OPEN

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Jeremy / Ira / Mike / Smith to find a time to have a next discussion with 
Standards Hub folks (refreshed from 03/06/23)
- CLOSED

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Jeremy to remove the suspended members from the members page
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Process 4.0 Last Call - status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-process-4-20230501.pdf

- Discussion
  - 8 responses so far

  - 26 voting members * .3 (30% required to reply) = 7.8 so we have achieved quorum in the PWG 
    Last Call!

  - PWG Last Call ends 06/16/23

  - Mike had some feedback that pertains to the Process / By-Laws dichotomy and weirdness, so 
    SC will review on 06/26/23

(4) PWG August F2F - planning (All)
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- Discussion
  - Initial schedule?
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ACTION: 06/12/23 - Smith to make a draft agenda for PWG August 2023 and send to SC reflector
- OPEN
(5) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
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- Discussion
  - Not covered - Mike unavailable
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(6) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)

- Discussion
  - Had another few calls

  - Needs further SC discussion on 06/26/23

(7) PWG 2023 Member Dues - status (Jeremy)

- Discussion
  - Delinquent members have been removed and notified of their removal and been invited to 
    re-join if they want to

(8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Getting messages OK and no problems so far

  - Alan wasn't getting his own messages to IDS - turns out he was disabled in IDS and now 
    we have cleared that problem up

  - Role based email addresses are now private mailing lists - Chair is getting lots of spam :)

(9) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://amcoe.org/event/icam2023/
https://amcoe.org/event/forum23/

- Discussion
  - Status from Alan on ICAM 2023 article
    - ICAM 2023 is on 10/30/23 to 11/03/23

    - Alan hasn't received any more correspondence on presenting at the conference

    - International Common Criteria Conference is 10/31/23 to 11/02/23

    - Both conferences are in the same place (Washington D.C.) so Alan should be very easily 
      able to attend both conferences and help present with Paul at ICAM

  - Paul will use Alan's outline to put into Paul's paper 
    - Paul waiting for Alan

(10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-202304509.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-May-2023
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.3
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.4
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.5
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b1
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/2.0rc1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.3.2
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.2.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes links from 04/04/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news links from 04/16/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2023 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - See timeline link above!
    - DONE - 23 January 2023 - Mentoring organiza􀀁ons start submitting applications to Google
    - DONE - 7 February 2023 - Mentoring organiza􀀁on application deadline
    - DONE - 22 February 2023 - List of accepted mentoring orgs published - LF accepted!
    - DONE - 22 February to 19 March 2023 - Poten􀀁al GSoC contributors discuss application
             ideas with mentoring organizations
    - DONE - 20 March 2023 - GSoC contributor application period begins
    - DONE - 4 April 2023 - GSoC contributor application period ends
    - DONE - 27 April 2023 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - DONE - 4 May 2023 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - DONE - 4-28 May 2023 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - DONE - 29 May 2023 - Coding officially begins!
    - 14 July 2023 - Midterm evaluation deadline (standard coding period)
    - 21-28 August 2023 - GSoC contributors submit their final work (standard coding period)
    - 28 August to 4 September 2023 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations 
    - 5 September 2023 - Initial results of Google Summer of Code 2023 announced

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.3 release notes link from 06/01/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)
  - See OP CUPS v2.4.4 hot fix release notes link from 06/06/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)
  - See OP CUPS v2.4.5 hot fix release notes link from 06/13/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta1 release notes link from 02/09/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0rc1 release candidate notes link from 04/11/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.3.2 release notes link from 05/06/23 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/21/22 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.2.0 release notes link from 12/31/22 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 04/04/23, 05/09/23, 06/06/23, and upcoming 07/11/23

(11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - PWG comment on 3MF for AMSC Design Team (note forwarded on 06/05/23)

  - Neither Mike nor Paul present to discuss

(12) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 19 June 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED - Smith and Ira will be absent

- SC - Monday 26 June 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Standard agenda?
  - Process 4.0 Last Call Comment Review - should this be done at a different meeting?
  - Invite Mike on both Security and Privacy and Process 4.0 Last Call
  - Invite Bill for slide show on his summer vacation

- SC - Monday 3 July 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED - due to US holiday

- SC - Monday 10 July 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - TBD

- SC - Monday 17 July 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - TBD

- SC - Monday 24 July 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - TBD

- SC - Monday 31 July 2023 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Ira not available due to IETF 117 Hybrid F2F (San Francisco)

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Jeremy / Ira / Mike / Smith to find a time to have a next discussion with Standards Hub folks (refreshed from 03/06/23)
- CLOSED
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Jeremy to remove the suspended members from the members page
- CLOSED