PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 30 October 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) PWG November F2F - status (All)
  (5) PWG Document Deprecate/Obsolete Transitions - defer (All)
  (6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith)
  (11) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20231016.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (16 October 2023)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 10/16/23 - Paul to reach out to Kris Iverson (Microsoft) about Drupa 2024
- OPEN

ACTION: 10/16/23 - Smith to reach out to Anthony Suarez (Mopria liaison) about Mopria / PWG State
of the Union presentation - Smith was asked to speak, but no updates since then
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update

- Discussion
  - Mike to continue researching Web hosting w/ ICDSoft and GitHub

  - Mike just renewed our DNS registration with a new provider (GoDaddy) and this might be 
    revised further if we move the website to ICDSoft because they provide that service free of 
    charge

(4) PWG November F2F - status (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/november-2023-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Jeremy's call (10/29/23) for Plenary slides content

  - Till's request (10/25/23) to reschedule to a different November week
    - Changed Joint PWG/OP to 7-9 May 2024 
      - Ira to check with Till - IN PROGRESS - note sent on 10/30/23
      - Till asked for one of the 2 weeks after the current dates

  - Live review by SC of draft PWG November Plenary slides
    - Changed Prototype Ready bullet to Discuss for EPX

    - Change the template to be the 16:9 one

    - As always, twiddle the gantt chart
      - Remove PWG Process 4.0

(5) PWG Document Deprecate/Obsolete Transitions - defer (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-document-management-policy.pdf
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- Discussion
  - Waiting for contributions to Document Management Policy

  - No updates
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(6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Everybody still getting stuff - so no problems currently

(7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://amcoe.org/event/icam2023/
https://amcoe.org/event/forum23/
https://iccconference.org/

- Discussion
  - Alan to speak at ICAM in Washington, DC (30 October to 3 November 2023)

  - Alan to speak at ICCC in Washington, DC (31 October to 2 November 2023)

  - Neither Alan nor Paul are here today - so wait for the ICAM report

(8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20230919.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-September-2023/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.7
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.2
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.2.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 09/19/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 10/04/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2023 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - See timeline link above!
    - DONE - 21-28 August 2023 - GSoC contributors submit code - all OP projects were extended
    - TBD October 2023 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations - delayed

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.7 release notes link from 09/20/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)
    - Just missed cutoff for Ubuntu 23.10 fall release
    - Since Ubuntu 24.04 is LTS (Long-Term Suppport) release, will wait until Ubuntu 24.10

  - See PAPPL v1.4.2 release notes link from 10/16/23 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/21/22 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.2.0 release notes link from 12/31/22 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 09/19/23, 10/17/23, and upcoming 11/14/23

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://www.drupa.com/
https://www.concrete.org/ (ACI)

- Discussion
  - Paul's note on Drupa in Dusseldorf, Germany (28 May to 7 June 2024)
    - Paul waiting to hear back from Microsoft colleague (Kris Iverson)

  - Paul's note (10/28/23) on TCT 3Sixty in Birmingham, UK (5-6 June 2024)
    - Paul received an invite to present

    - Monitor this opportunity and see whether to attend

    - Already in Europe for Drupa

(10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith)
https://mopria.org/

- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - Smith has updated slides to be feature-focused

    - Smith to present "Recent Significant Changes to IPP" at Mopria Member Meeting 
      - 9 November 2023 at 3-4pm local time (Japan) / 11pm PT / 2am ET.

(11) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 6 November 2023
  - Review final PWG November Plenary slides and agenda

- SC - Monday 13 November 2023
  - CANCELED due to PWG November F2F

- SC - Monday 20 November 2023
  - Post-mortem on PWG November F2F or CANCEL

- SC - Monday 27 November 2023
  - Post-mortem on PWG November F2F or CANCEL

- SC - Monday 4 December 2023
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 11 December 2023
  - Regular meeting

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/18/23 - Mike to put together some summary slides on PWG website hosting options with recommendations
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/02/23 - All SC members to make lists of all our specs for Deprecated, Obsolete, Historic potential transitions and share the lists so we can review them in a future meeting
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/09/23 - Jeremy to send out call for PWG November 2023 Plenary slides content soon
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/09/23 - Alan to post ICAM 2023 presentation slides to PWG FTP site for further review
- CLOSED
ACTION: 10/09/23 - Paul to check to see if we can get 10 minutes to speak to ACI about Safe G-Code (PWG 5199.7-2019).
- CLOSED
ACTION: 10/16/23 - Paul to reach out to Kris Iverson (Microsoft) about Drupa 2024
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/16/23 - Smith to reach out to Anthony Suarez (Mopria liaison) about Mopria/PWG State of the Union presentation - Smith was asked to speak, but no updates since then
- CLOSED