PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 5 February 2024

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) PWG February 2024 F2F - updates (Jeremy/Smith)
  (5) PWG May 2024 F2F - status (All)
  (6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities - update (Paul)
  (10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith/Mike)
  (11) Document Management Policy - status (Smith)
  (12) Membership Dues - status (Jeremy)
  (13) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20240122.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (22 January 2024)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review
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- No action items from last meeting
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(3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update
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- Discussion
  - Mike unable to attend and no updates posted yet
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(4) PWG February 2024 F2F - updates (Jeremy/Smith)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/february-2024-virtual.html
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-plenary-february-2024-d5.pptx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/pwg-ids-february-2024-ira-tcg-ietf-v1.pptx

- Discussion
  - Agenda changed as per IPP WG meeting 2024-02-01 and subsequent message from Mike to Smith

  - Live edited the agenda page on the website, Jeremy to update the plenary slides to match 
    after the SC meeting and to add IDS status slides
    - DONE - Jeremy posted latest draft on 02/07/24 

    - Still waiting for Alan's IDS plenary slides - Bill sent candidate update on 02/09/24

    - Ira sent IDS Liaison slides (TCG/IETF) on 02/08/24

(5) PWG May 2024 F2F - status (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html

- Discussion
  - Status on F2F/Virtual poll?
    - Poll started on 01/10/24

    - 13 responses (9 for virtual, 4 for Lexington)

  - Made the event now be all virtual

  - Plan on 6 hour days if in person and maybe make the breaks and lunch be a bit longer

  - Notified LF OpenPrinting about the change to all virtual

(6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Nothing "new" has been detected recently

(7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)

- Discussion
  - On hold till late February (after the PWG February F2F)

(8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20240109.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-January-2024/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.7
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.6
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.2.0
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.3.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 01/09/24 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 01/30/24 (Till)

  - GSoC 2024 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - DONE - 26 January to 6 February 2024 - Mentoring organizations submit applications to Google
    - 6 February to 20 February 2024 - Google program admins review organization applications
    - 21 February 2024 - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
    - 22 February to 18 March 2024 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas with 
      mentoring organizations
    - 2 April 2024 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 24 April 2024 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 1 May 2024 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 1 May to 26 May 2024 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 27 May 2024 - Coding officially begins!

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.7 release notes link from 09/20/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.6 release notes link from 02/09/24 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.2.0 release notes link from late January 2024 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.3.0 release notes link from 01/31/24 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 12/12/23, 01/09/24, and upcoming 02/20/24

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Paul still owes Jeremy updated Plenary slides for 3D for PWG February F2F

  - Paul hasn't heard back from either organization as to whether they want us to make
    presentations in the May / June 2024 timeframe - still waiting

(10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith, Mike)
https://mopria.org/
https://3mf.io/
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- Discussion
  - 3MF
    - No updates

  - Mopria
    - No updates
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(11) Document Management Policy - status (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-document-management-policy-20240122.docx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-document-management-policy-20240122-rev.docx
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- Discussion
  - No update posted 
    - Smith will post update for review at SC meeting following PWG February F2F
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(12) Membership Dues - status (Jeremy)
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- Discussion
  - Some members still haven't paid their 2024 dues
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ACTION: 02/05/24 - Jeremy to add some kind of guilt notice on the membership slide in the Plenary deck for PWG February F2F and point out the upcoming formal vote
- OPEN
ACTION: 02/05/24 - Jeremy / IEEE-ISTO to contact billing contacts to get them to try to get paid up in time for upcoming formal vote
- OPEN

(13) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 12 February 2024
  - CANCEL due to PWG February 2024 F2F

- SC - Monday 19 February 2024
  - Post-mortem on PWG February 2024 F2F
  - Document Management Policy updated draft review (get Mike to attend too)
  - PWG hosting at ICDSoft update? (Mike) 

- SC - Monday 26 February 2024
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 4 March 2024
  - Regular meeting

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG website w/ use cases
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/08/24 - Mike to prepare comments / summary slides on progress evaluating ICDSoft and Github PWG hosting infrastructure capabilites
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 09/28/23
ACTION: 01/08/24: Paul to investigate Webinar / recording options to produce a video and where to host it (pwg.org, WebEx, YouTube)
- OPEN
- Working on an updated presentation to the ACI folks and that will inform working on this